Beebs and Dan rope John Nathan Cordy back on whilst the Doc and TQ are away. Big shoes to fill, but he's now a Dad, and Johnny big chewbs since last time he was on. Can he get through the first 60 seconds without an R Kelly joke? This may have been a bad idea. Oh dear. Topics include the big guns (Fender, Gibson, Suhr) returning to the NAMM show for 2025, checking in with Cordy's youtube success/workflow and all the hullalballoo around Kemper charging for updates. Are free gear updates now a thing of the past?