We're back and talking hardcore. This week, I'm joined by Al Barile of SS Decontrol for a lengthy conversation. We get into early Boston hardcore, recording The Kids Will Have Their Say, who Al thinks played fast hardcore better, the shifting sound, playing California, and tons more. Check the website for playlists, our links, and SMASH that Patreon button:185milessouth.comWe are on Substack (sometimes) writing about punk and hardcore:185milessouth.substack.comGet at me: [email protected]Buy SSD and X-Claim stuff: https://xclaim.bigcartel.comEpisode art photo: Philin PhlashInterview was conducted in December 2025.