#321 - Kim Jong Un Psychological Profiler on China & Most DISTURBING Patient | Ken Dekleva

SPONSORS: 1) MANDO: Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get 20% off + free shipping with promo code JULIAN at https://shopmando.com ! #mando (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Dr. Kenneth Dekleva is a former physician-diplomat with the U.S. State Department and a Professor of Psychiatry at UT Southwestern Medical Center. He is also a senior fellow at the George H. W. Bush Foundation for U.S.-China Relations and the author of two novels, The Negotiator’s Cross and The Last Violinist. PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey KEN's LINKS - IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecipherbrief/# - X: https://x.com/thecipherbrief - WEBSITE: https://www.thecipherbrief.com/experts/kenneth-dekleva - KEN WORK: https://www.blackwoodadvisorysolutions.com/ FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ****TIMESTAMPS**** 00:00 – Ken’s Past Guests, Role in State Admissions, Starting in Moscow, Truth About US Diplomats Abroad 09:23 – Intro to Psychiatry, Jim Grigson, Forensic Evaluation Techniques 20:45 – Ken’s Most Intense Case, Prison Psychiatry Reality, Core Philosophy: “Nothing Human is Alien,” Language Shifts in Interviews 32:45 – Having Empathy for Monsters, Emotional Toll, Testifying in Child Abuse Trials, Evaluating Inmates for Release 41:24 – Causes of Predatory Urges, Shocking Classmate Reveal, Reconciling Faith with Catholic Abuse Scandals 49:33 – POW Camp Stories, Parents Meeting Post-WWII, Love for Language and History 57:35 – Why Psychiatry, Ken’s Biggest Influence, Most Brilliant Interviewer Ever Met 01:07:31 – Trait of Elite Interviewers, Joining State Department 01:15:47 – First Day in Moscow, Love for Russia, Stress of Diplomatic Work 01:26:41 – Why People Distrust Psychiatrists, Balancing Career & Marriage Abroad 01:32:51 – Benefits for Kids Raised Overseas 01:37:06 – Havana Diplomats, Monthly Parties, Falling Into Geopolitics 01:47:49 – Presenting with Jerrold Post, Karadžić’s Shift, T4 Program, Why Humans Commit Atrocities 01:59:02 – Studying Putin, Evil in Human Nature, Social Media’s Dark Path 02:03:27 – Challenging Radical Beliefs, Stalin’s Hero Revival, Is Kim Jong Un Rational?, What Worries Ken 02:18:01 – Profiling Xi Jinping, His Father’s Story, Rumors of Xi’s Fall, China’s AI Race 02:26:25 – Retaining Foreign Talent, New Cold War, Kai-Fu Lee, National Space Heroes 02:35:32 – The Most Evil Mind Ken Studied, Guardrails for Social Media, Youth Mental Health, COVID Fallout 02:45:52 – Staying Tied to Government, Working with Cancer Patients, Human Side of Medicine, Does Ken Fear Death? CREDITS: - Host & Producer: Julian Dorey - Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 321 - Ken Dekleva Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices