
What does it really mean to be spiritual but not religious?
In this thought-provoking episode, Jan Engels-Smith and Micah Schwader explore the growing movement of people who identify as spiritual while stepping away from organized religion. Together, they examine the difference between religion, spirituality, and direct communication with the spirit world, sharing personal stories, shamanic perspectives, and powerful experiences that challenge conventional beliefs.
Jan discusses the shamanic understanding that everything in existence—from rocks and rivers to animals and trees—carries intelligence and spirit. She shares stories of communicating with the unseen world, working with spiritual allies, and the profound lessons that emerge when we open ourselves to guidance beyond the physical senses.
Micah reflects on his lifelong questioning of religious dogma and his search for a more direct relationship with the divine. He shares moving stories about spirit animals, ancient stones, childhood experiences with organized religion, and the journey that led him toward a spirituality rooted in personal experience rather than prescribed belief.
Together, they explore: