#113 The Invisible Bomb with Todd Wilber

In this episode of K9's Talking Scents, host Cameron Ford engages with Todd Wilber from Precision Explosives to discuss the intricacies of explosives, odor prints, and their applications in training detection dogs. The conversation delves into the science behind odor absorption, the importance of surface area in training aids, and the safety considerations when handling hazardous materials. They also explore the debate surrounding the use of Kong toys in detection training and innovative solutions for integrating scent into training tools. This conversation delves into the intricacies of dog scent detection, focusing on various training methods, the implications of 3D printing in creating training aids, and the evolving landscape of bomb detection. The speakers discuss the importance of adapting training to current threats, the effectiveness of different detection materials, and the necessity of realistic training scenarios to prepare dogs for real-world applications. In this conversation, Todd Wilber and Cameron Ford delve into the complexities of explosive detection, focusing on the training of bomb detection dogs and the various types of explosives they may encounter. They discuss the importance of understanding different explosive materials, the challenges posed by new homemade explosives like TATP and R-Salt, and the critical communication needed between dog handlers and bomb technicians. The conversation also highlights the risks associated with dual-purpose detection dogs (Gun and Explosive) and the need for specialized training to ensure safety and effectiveness in the field.Contact Todd Wilbur at http://www.pre-exp.comSponsors:Getxent: Purchase blank or odor soaked tubes at http://www.getxent.com or at http://www.pre-exp.comMichael Ellis School: The only place to get authentic Michael Ellis videos *Michael's Version and training with Michael Ellis is at his website http://www.michaelellisschool.com Ford K9 for all things Detection Dogs and to find webinars, seminars and online classes go to http://www.fordk9.comStratascope: We develop custom, comprehensive security postures for each client. Contact our event operations experts today to learn more about our process and how we can secure your next event. http://www.stratascope.com Chapters00:00 Introduction to Explosives and Precision Explosives02:11 Understanding Odor Prints and Their Applications06:01 The Science Behind Odor Absorption and Release10:00 Best Practices for Using Training Aids12:00 Documenting Training with Odor Aids16:05 Exploring the Role of TADs in Training19:47 Safety Considerations with Hazardous Materials24:08 The Debate on Kong Toys in Detection Training28:04 Innovations in Scented Training Tools31:23 Understanding Dog Scent Detection33:03 The Rise of 3D Printing in Detection Training35:54 Evaluating Electronics Detection Methods38:52 Innovations in Bomb Detection Training46:56 Adapting to Evolving Threats in Bomb Detection55:59 Creating Realistic Training Scenarios01:07:16 Explosive Pairings and Training for Detection01:12:36 Understanding Smokeless Powder: Single vs Double Base01:14:17 Hazardous Device Mixtures and Training Considerations01:18:36 TATP and HMTD: Emerging Threats in Explosives01:21:24 The Explosive Train: Key Components for Bomb Dog Handlers01:24:31 Communication Between Handlers and Bomb Technicians01:27:10 Invisible Bombs: Concealment Techniques and Challenges01:32:02 R-Salt: A New Homemade Explosive01:35:58 The Dual Role of Bomb and Firearms Detection Dogs