#37 OpenAI/ Hugging Face Post-Mortem (AI doomerism or Marketing?)

Did OpenAI’s models go rogue, or is the AI industry using the Hugging Face breach to push ethics washing and top-down regulation? In this episode, we unpack the incident, examine the METR report, and explore perspectives from industry leaders including Demis Hassabis and Mark Zuckerberg. We also discuss the core arguments around AI existential risk and superintelligence safety.

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Timestamps00:00 – Highlights01:46 – Intro08:18 – OpenAI × Hugging Face incident27:40 – Aftermath: ethics washing, terms of engagement and regulation51:16 – What does AI doom look like?

References & links

• PauseAI p(doom) chart
• Incident breakdown
• Andrew Wu’s Substack: the investigation and ethics washing
• METR incident report
• The Guardian: UK MPs on artificial superintelligence
• BBC: AI and threats to human rights
• Yann LeCun on X
• Elon Musk on AI doom
• Jensen Huang on AI doom

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