Cathy and Todd talk about 1939’s The Wizard of Oz, from its famously troubled production to the AI-powered version they just saw at the Las Vegas Sphere. They talk about the influence of Joseph Campbell’s hero’s journey, Jung’s idea of the shadow, and why it makes sense that the Witch melts from a bucket of water thrown to save a friend. They also get into how much Dorothy’s journey looks like a Zen teaching and how Wicked turned the whole thing around and let the Witch tell her side. And they keep coming back to how the guy behind the curtain never really had any power over you, the ruby slippers were on your feet the whole time, and there really is no place like home.
